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  • Artist Services

    Hi Blue_Giraffe!

    We're actually receiving more and more tracks on a daily basis since the end of the year, hence the longer process. Our music team will make sure to have a quick look at your works today though :-)

    We've just on-boarded a new team member in the moderation team and we're looking at adding another one to make sure we keep it reasonable.

    Let me know if I can do anything else for you!

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  • Blue_Giraffe

    Yes! Tell when there is a payment for December? There will be it today?

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  • Artist Services

    I've just answered in the other topic but just to make sure: we have less than 20 payments remaining so you can expect it anytime, it should reach you really shortly. I've sent out a quick message to our team, I'll update you when I know it's done.

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  • Blue_Giraffe

    Ok! Thanks, Valentin! I will wait

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  • Artist Services

    It's been done! :-)

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  • Sarah De Carlo

    Hi.

    Same problem here, songs waiting for almost 20 days ... In the last few months, the waiting time for the revision of the songs has gone from an average of 1 week to an average of 3 weeks. Understandable, but this makes sense when the song is released publicly upon approval (as practically in almost all royalty free music sites), but since the song is released immediately and in the early days there is a greater feedback from the public that can not buy a license, I think this is a big loss by both the composer and Jamendo. I think, and this is my sincere suggestion, that you should implement a function to let the composer choose whether to release the song publicly at the same time as it is reviewed and accepted, avoiding wasting 3/4 weeks when the song is 'hot' and not salable, to favor those who work with music production.

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  • Blue_Giraffe

    Fully support! I believe that the release of the track for sale should be alongside the public release of the track in order not to lose money and potential buyers!

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  • Blue_Giraffe

    Fully support! I believe that the release of the track for sale should be alongside the public release of the track in order not to lose money and potential buyers!

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  • Artist Services

    Hi Sarah & Blue_Giraffe,

    You are completely right on this.

    Let me shed some light on this matter: some of you are primarily interested in Jamendo Licensing and the sync business, so Jamendo Music and its free model isn't really important for you in this regard. It's been a long requested feature, but this year we will eventually offer the possibility to upload songs only on Jamendo Licensing. By doing so, the moderation of a work will mean the simultaneous release of the work on the commercial platform.

    Since Jamendo Music is aimed at being a full music discovery experience, the users of the platform are (and will be even more) different users than the ones on Jamendo Licensing. Though there are some potential customers on Jamendo Music, most of them visit directly Jamendo Licensing when they want to acquire a license.

    Do you think the Licensing only upload can be an improvement in this regard? I'd be interested to know your opinion on this!

    We cannot make the release on Jamendo Music simultaneously with the moderation for one reason: many artists aren't interested in Jamendo Licensing and only visit us to release their works on Jamendo Music. Since Jamendo Music is open to any type of works (as long as it's not a remix), there is no actual approval required to be published. That's the reason why a track is always uploaded & published first on Jamendo Music. It's a legacy from a time without our commercial platform. But that's why we want a licensing only upload, this way you can really control where your music goes.

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  • Sarah De Carlo

    Hi Valentin, thank you for your reply.

    I think that the Licensing only upload could be a solution, but I understand that this would bring the song only on the licensing site, and it would be in itself a loss, since, for my personal experience, I noticed that most of the purchases arrive a few hours after someone saves in the ' preferred 'the song in the main site.

    This would be a loss also from the point of view youtube content id, since for those registered, even the free download of the song monetized on YouTube could be a profit.

    Moreover, having noticed that most of the purchases are made after a save in the favorites, in the 20 days of waiting for the revision of the song, someone saves the song but does not find it in the licensing platform, and this is a safe loss for the producer , hypothetical for Jamendo since the buyer can buy another song.

    I speak to you both as a web expert and music producer and I give another example: I load the song on my website and obviously I will never choose Jamendo as a sale link, because for 20 days the song is not available and I would do a favor to other artists. An 'Embed' option, also, would be GREAT!

    Of course, we are not all on Jamendo for the music production, but I think the only useful solution (both for the producer and for jamendo), is to unite the two interfaces 'upload-participation program', during the upload phase: , when I load the song I choose whether to make it available immediately for 'listening', or whether to register the song to the platform jamendo licensing (and make it available only after approval), also because, just as you explained, if I use jamendo because I sell licenses, not only I have no interest in making it public if not approved, but I would also have a loss since they would only download it for free.

    I understand that Jamendo is not the 'classic' platform that we production music producers are used to, but I do not think it is so complicated to make this 'hybrid' solution work in the most profitable way for everyone.

    And, I take advantage of this productive debate, also to point out something else: I noticed that many 'personal licenses' are bought by 'companies', and sometimes it gets even more ridiculous because you find 'xxx film' who buys a 'personal license' ... Now, it should not be the producer to contact this company (when it publishes the customer's video), to point out that 'mistakenly' (:-)) has purchased a personal license for a paid work.

    Assuming that a person who is registered as a company really needs a license for personal use, I do not think it is so difficult to open a new account specifically for this.

    A user registered as a company should not have the option to buy packages for personal use. Since you, unlike most of the royalty free music sites offer this option, you should also evaluate the impact and the real usefulness and safeguard at the base the improper use of personal licenses.

    I have been working for years and full time in this sector, so I hope these points of view can be useful and productive since I'm not here to 'criticize' but to hope that this platform will grow more and more for us and with us :)

    I Hope my english is clear.

    Ciao!

    Sarah.

     

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  • Artist Services

    Hi Sarah,

    Thanks for having taken the time to write this long and detailed reply!

    As I mentioned in another post, we'll have before the end of Q1 a Help Center dedicated to artists with tons of articles and a dedicated message board. I sincerely hope such discussions will become more common after this.

    You're completely right when you say that it'd be a loss. As a company, it's nevertheless our responsibility to make sure that it's not the case. What I mean with this is that once again, the two platforms are supposed to have completely different audiences, and it's our responsibility to make sure the right users come to the right platform. We still have some work ahead of us to make sure that whoever visits Jamendo for the first time is easily redirected to the right platform (Music fans on jamendo.com, Artists on artists.jamendo.com and Customers on licensing.jamendo.com). That being said, we will always have a 'Get License' button on Jamendo Music: in this regard, it'd indeed make sense to imagine a feature allowing licensing artists to delay the release on Jamendo Music until the moderation result. It's actually a pretty good idea I'll share with the team. Thanks for this! Embeddable tools and widgets also need to be brought back.

    I also understand why you'd like to keep your works on Jamendo Music to maximise the potential of YouTube Content ID. That's what I'd do myself to be honest.

    When it comes to Personal Licenses, I also totally get your point. There is no company/VAT fields for Personal Licenses but we need to put additional barriers this year.

    Also, be sure that we don't see any criticisms in your message. You raise valid points and each of them comes with detailed arguments. Once again, this is the type of discussions we'd love to re-kindle in 2019 via the dedicated artist Help Center and we sincerely hope that by Q2 we will have a lot of open-discussions with the community.

     

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  • Blue_Giraffe

    Good day! Tracks on check are already more than a week? When will they be admitted to the licensing program? Thank you!

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  • francis littlewilliam

    I  have a feeling that  music that i have made in past   like  "  Naturalbodyartist "   today could be not accepted for anyone / unknown  reason like " limited  commercial potential "  :  what' does this mean ? 

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